God’s Trinity: How Ancient Creeds and Dead Men Define Our Belief

Tuesday, February 17th, 2009 | Doctrine, God

**Part of the Thoroughly Painless Guide to the Doctrine of God’s Trinity series.**

If you haven’t figured it out yet, we are building a head of steam towards a definitive guide to the doctrine of the Trinity. 

I know you so care. 

Regardless, far from being a rather pointless piece of theological speculation…the doctrine of the Trinity is grounded directly in the complex human experience of redemption in Christ.

That’s why I saw it as of paramount importance to explore 10 inadequate views, 4 historical approaches and early Church fathers idea of the Trinity

Today were going take a quick journey back to the 3rd and 4th centuries where the universal church affirmed–through creeds and councils–that the doctrine of the Trinity was normative for all believers.

Then let’s discuss the prickly problem of ancient dead men defining our modern mode of worship.  Let’s go. 

Apostle’s Creed: Odd Origins

The Apostle’s Creed–one of the earliest creeds–pointed to the Trinity in its three “I believe” statements: I believe in God the Father, Jesus His Son and the Holy Spirit.

The basic point behind the creed was to defend the Gospel of Christ and refute Gnosticism.

The creeds name comes from the 5th Century legend that after Pentecost, the 12 Apostles dictated part of it. That’s why it’s traditionally divided into twelve sections. 

Athanasian Creed: Visualizing the Obscure

The Athanasian Creed, appearing possibly after the first Council of Nicaea in 325, is the first creed to establish equality in the Trinity:

Nothing is before or after, nothing is greater or less: but all three persons coeternal, together and equal.

Early experiments–were talkin’ 12th Century here– in symbolizing the Trinity as a visual device produced the Shield of the Trinity. You can see the diagram on the knight’s shield in the image above. 

The Shield of the Trinity was used as a device from which the Athanasian Creed can be read. Kind of like a rosary. But not really.  

Council of Constantinople: Condemning and Confirming

And the great ecumenical Council of Constantinople in A. D. 381 declared this statement as a norm for orthodoxy.

It did this by:

1. Confirming the original Nicene Creed.

2. Developing a statement to combat the heresy Pneumatomachi.

3. Expanding the 3rd article of the Nicene creed to establish that the Holy Spirit must be of the same being as God the Father.

4. Condemning Arianism.

What Do You Think?

Do creeds even matter? Are they too formal?  Too limiting? Too stifling? 

Besides, “Why should we suppose that early churchmen,” quoting Andrew Perriman, “who had their own presuppositions and prejudices, were in a position to provide a definitive summary of the faith for all time?”

Or are they important because they define the boundaries within which Christians operate? 

I’d love to hear your thoughts. Drop them in the comments. Brutal and all.

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6 Comments to God’s Trinity: How Ancient Creeds and Dead Men Define Our Belief

Matthew Bye
February 17, 2009

Ok, we believe that the Bible is the word of God. We believe the Bible is infallibly truthful. The problem arises when we we’re allowed to individually interpret what the Bible means. We can arrange the words of Scipture say anything we want. We can pull out an interpretation to support just about any position, and back it up with seal of truth. This can lead to divisive disagreement within the body, or worse, outright heresy.

Creeds (and confessions) give us the opportunity to say, as a body, “this is what we believe the words in the Bible mean.” The creed gives us a consistent framework for evaluating interpretations of Scripture and our own beliefs. However, we must be careful that we don’t use creeds/confessions to add to, or subtract from, from the Scriptures.

So yes, creeds are important to Christians.

Demian Farnworth
February 18, 2009

Matthew: Great summary and warning. I always appreciate hearing your thoughtful replies. Thank you for taking the time.

Maribel
March 14, 2009

both the nicene and the athanasian creeds where influenced by paganism and greek philosophy.

I believe Jesus when he said he was the son of God.

The beginning of the creation by God, the only-begotten son. Such a beautiful and simple truth.

Demian Farnworth
March 14, 2009

You’re right: It is beautiful, Maribel.

Maribel
March 18, 2009

Just wanted to share a video with you. I hope you don’t get offended by it. If you do, I apologize in advance, but I think the truth is too important not to share.

Just click on my name, and it will take you to my blog.

Agape.

Maribel
March 19, 2009

Hello!

I responded to your question on my blog.

Also, I found this video yesterday, not affiliated with JW’s, but thought it was interesting. I don’t agree with him 100%, but still think he has some very good points. Click on my name for the video.

Thank you again for this exchange.
Maribel

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